WHY does the SCOMO GOVT Persist with Importing People with Australia in the Grip of Drought and Floods?




HOW is it that we continue to import people when …

-much of the country is in the grip of drought?

record high temperatures have stressed our agricultural yields, in many cases to their lowest in over a decade?

Braidwood farmers Mark and Sonia Horan.

SMH Photo: Braidwood farmers Mark and Sonia Horan.CREDIT:KARLEEN MINNEY 

They have water in only three of their 23 dams.CREDIT:

NSW, which has had its warmest January-July 2018, posted its fourth-warmest July alone, as did Queensland. Even Victoria, buffeted by more cold fronts, posted its sixth-warmest July.  The bureau’s August-October outlook points to below-average rainfall for most of eastern Australia and warmer-than-normal temperatures as unfavourable climate influences from the Indian Ocean tighten the atmospheric tap that normally streams moisture across the continent at this time of year. … And the impact of resulting heatwaves is typically multiplied, knocking as much as 10 per cent off the yield of cereal crops – assuming farmers have enough moisture and funds to plant in the first place, he says.



our potable (drinking) water supply is struggling to maintain adequate reserves with expensive desalination having commenced in Sydney, and restrictions being contemplated?


A warehouse with water ponds and elevated walking paths

ABC Photo:  The Desalination Plant Sydney; it should take 3 to 4 months for drinking water to be ready. (Supplied:  Sydney Desalination Plant)


Warragamba dam at only 64 percent

Photo:  November 2018 Sydney:  Warragamba Dam was at 64.9%



our road and rail systems are not coping despite massive infrastructure spends?


Huge crowds at Strathfield train station

ABC Photo:  People packed in at Strathfield Station



Crikey Photo:  Sydney train serviced described as a “shitshow” and commuters are pee’d awf.



Image may contain: 3 people

Photo:  The Sydney rail train crush after commuters manage to get onto a train

WestConnex has faced stiff opposition from residents in Sydney's inner west.


SHM Photo:  WESTCONNEX has faced stiff opposition from residents in Sydney’s inner west.CREDIT:STEVEN SIEWERT

WESTCONNEX has annihilated the Inner West and is progressing with its destructive tentacles across Sydney to the Royal National Park in the South and to Sydney’s Northern Beaches!



Umberto Galasso pictured with a crack he says opened up or widened after excavation works for WestConnex beneath his North Strathfield home.

SMH Photo:  Umberto Galasso pictured with a crack he says opened up or widened after excavation works for WestConnex beneath his North Strathfield home. CREDIT:WOLTER PEETERS


-‘catch-up’ is an acceptable strategy – when clearly it is not, and has a huge impact on


.public health

.fails to achieve its aims as demand overtakes so-called solutions



-extreme weather events like wide-spread flooding and fires wreak havoc over vast areas


The Mercury Photo:  Smoke is choking communities across Hobart; Main street of Geeveston under heavy smoke early this morning (3 Feb. 2019) Picture: NIKKI DAVIS-JONES



Spotfire on Arve Road near Geeveston. Picture: NIKKI DAVIS-JONES

VIEW for more about the Tasmanian fires:  https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-02-03/tasmanians-prepare-for-severe-fire-dangers-on-sunday/10774452



Floodwaters surrounding some homes, as seen from the air

ABC Photo:  Floodwaters surrounding some homes in Gumlow, Townsville (Supplied:  Meridian Helicopters)


Retaining wall collapses in Townsville

ABC Photo:  Residents of a house had to evacuate as part of a hill gave way!
Causing damage to a retaining wall and a unit complex!  Townsville

VIEW Photo gallery:  https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-02-03/townsville-flooding-catastrophe-ingham-heavy-rain/10774312




A clear and present danger that so many are blind to is the reality we inhabit one of the driest places on earth yet SOME maintain a belief system:

-that this place can be exploited forever


-that somehow our resources are infinite


Fears over the ag production space east of the Sandstone Curtain are long-held, and will surely build as Sydney grows from 4.9 million to 8 million people by 2050 as expected.

Photo:  The Herald:  Fears over the ag production space east of the Sandstone Curtain are long-held, and will surely build as Sydney grows from 4.9 million to 8 million people by 2050 as expected.



-that science will solve everything


Drone shot of tractor in crops on dry grain farm

VIEW:  For why this isn’t so!  https://caanhousinginequalitywithaussieslockedout.wordpress.com/2018/09/15/a-farmer-in-reply-to-sir-frank-on-a-big-australia/?fbclid=IwAR0vfXD6E2Ukep1rZcttxqbEI3fcl9gOMmGYTRbAqPergJWCW6EIjW60U5E


-that the growth economic model will go forever



A Google Earth shot of Menangle village with the trees, backyards and lifestyle you would expect 70km from Sydney – with a shot of the new estates.

 A Google Earth shot of Menangle village with the trees, backyards and lifestyle you would expect 70km from Sydney – with a shot of the new estates.


-that trickle-down economics works for all

View:  Why Homelessness is getting Worse:  https://caanhousinginequalitywithaussieslockedout.wordpress.com/2018/05/26/why-homelessness-is-getting-worse-by-the-unconventional-economist/

A homeless person sleeps on a street covered in blankets and surrounded by milk crates.


-that the market knows what works


-that there are places on this earth that endure harsher conditions so what we do here is okay

YEOVAL: John, Brooke, Chris, Thomas and Jack Haycock on their farm, which has been in their family for six generations

ABC Photo:  Farmers fighting the drought!


Farmers have a diminishing supply of fodder to sustain stock.

SMH Photo:  Farmers have a diminishing supply of fodder to sustain stock.CREDIT: NICK MOIR


Skinny cow

ABC Photo:  Skinny cow; August 2018; a quarter of NSW was in intense drought; DPI figures: ABC News:  Luke Wong


NSW farmers are paying hefty sums for fodder to be trucked in from as far as SA and Victoria.

ABC Photo:  August 2018:   NSW farmers are paying hefty sums for fodder to be trucked in from as far as SA and Victoria.


-that future proofing, doing the planning and building ahead of demand is too difficult; instead of the current model of merely repeating the past and playing catch-up 

The list goes on!







AS of today (27 January 2019) the Consortium, the Hastings Funds Management and the Ontario Teachers’ Pension Plan, based in Canada are to be paid $5.5M to switch the desalination plant on!

-every day Sydney Water customers are paying more than $500,000 in what is known as an availability charge

-such charge whether we use water or not; equivalent to some $200 million a year

-that is a 50-year deal locked in; at the end of that 50 years this facility will be given to the private operators for not a cent extra

between 2013 and 2062 the owners are guaranteed inflation-linked payments of some $10B from Sydney Water




Sydney’s privatised desalination plant, which is costing residents more than $500,000 a day to keep on standby, will not be needed for at least another four or five years.

The sale of the plant last year to a private company for $2.3 billion means residents are locked into paying about $10 billion in fees for the next 50 years, whether the plant is operating or not.

Not one drop of water has come out of the Kurnell facility since it stopped operating more than a year ago.

With dam levels at 93.4 per cent, the plant has been placed into “water security” mode, a long-term shutdown which is likely to continue for some time.

“My best estimate is it will still be about four to five years before we turn the desalination plant on,” Sydney Water’s managing director Kevin Young told 7.30 New South Wales.

But the meter has not stopped ticking over for Sydney Water customers.

Every day they are paying more than $500,000 in what is known as an availability charge.

“We pay an availability charge whether we use water or not. That is equivalent to around $200 million a year,” Mr Young said.

That’s now a 50-year deal locked in, and at the end of that 50 years this facility gets given to the private operators for not a cent extra

Michael Daley, Opposition treasury spokesman

In May last year, just weeks before the plant was put on ice, it was sold to private investors.

The buyer was a consortium split 50-50 between Hastings Funds Management and the Ontario Teachers’ Pension Plan, based in Canada.

Between now and 2062 they are guaranteed inflation-linked payments of about $10 billion from Sydney Water.

The NSW Minister for Finance and Services, Andrew Constance, said the deal delivered value for money.

“We took a very deliberate decision to refinance the desalination plant, to convert it to a 50-year lease because by having that capital available, we can better utilise that capital across the community for hospitals, schools and roads,” he said.

Owners will be paid a $5.5 million restart fee

It was a Labor government that built the Kurnell plant, but Opposition treasury spokesman Michael Daley says the O’Farrell Government has turned it from a public asset to a cash cow for a private company.

“That’s now a 50-year deal locked in, and at the end of that 50 years this facility gets given to the private operators for not a cent extra,” he said.

“That’s not a good deal for the people of New South Wales.”


The fees paid to the owners of the desalination plant are set by the state’s Independent Pricing and Regulatory Tribunal (IPART).

They are structured to ensure the owners receive a return on their investment whether the plant is running or not.

When the plant was switched off in July last year, the owners were paid a shutdown fee of $1.5 million.

When it comes time to switch it on again, they will be paid a restart fee of $5.5 million.

“The problem with all these privatisations, the details are always kept hidden,” Mr Daley said.

“There’s great secrecy that surrounds all these asset sales under the O’Farrell Government.”

Sydney Water says the sale has had no impact on water bills.

“Customers are probably paying around $100 a year for the desalination plant as part of their bill,” Mr Young said.

“There’s no difference to what customers pay whether it’s the State Government that owns the plant or the private sector.”

Find out more on this story on tonight’s 7.30 NSW program.

SOURCE:  https://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-09-27/nsw-desalination-plant-deal-costing-customers-$10-billion/4985168?fbclid=IwAR1VGQi7jpqXmtxAVz09lJcxrmcr8Da1gIpNKgm8S9h3eNd_3pvFeqi-vvc






Greens MP John Kaye, who has previously described the plant at Kurnell as a “white elephant”, which has never produced a drop of desalinated water outside testing, has called for it to be permanently mothballed, as he believes there is no likelihood of it being needed in the forseeable future.

Greens MP John Kaye wants the Sydney desalination plant mothballed.
Greens MP John Kaye wants the Sydney desalination plant mothballed.CREDIT:JAMES ALCOCK


Figures from Water NSW show that dams this weekend are 82.8 per cent full, with Warragamba dam, the largest of Sydney’s five drinking water catchments, 85.5 per cent full.

Amid much controversy, the desalination plant was built by the Labor government as an insurance policy against drought, but critics say the state was already well served by reservoirs and that increasingly efficient use of water, despite a growing population, means it is unlikely to be needed.

The Warragamba Dam is one of five reservoirs providing water for Sydney.
The Warragamba Dam is one of five reservoirs providing water for Sydney.


“What we should do now is pay Veolia, the maintenance company, out and put the plant into mothballs,” Mr Kaye said. “Mr Baird has signed us to a 50-year contract tying us to a plant we don’t need. It’s unlikely we will need it in the next 10 years and it is likely we will never need it.

“This is all about voodoo economics. It was leased to get it off the government’s accounts so they could borrow more money. Every household is still paying for the lease in the same way we were paying for a loan.”

The NSW government sold its plant to a consortium of Hastings Funds Management and the Ontario Teachers’ Pension Plan for $2.3 billion, but with a 50-year lease that guaranteed them payments whether the plant was working or not.

Sydney Desalination Plant chief executive Keith Davies said maintenance of the plant in 2012/13 cost $194.9 million, in 2013/14 it cost $192.7 million and to March this year it cost a further $147.1 million. He also said that if it was required to put the plant into full operation now, it would cost $5.9 million.

The plant was in “water security mode”, which was effectively hibernation, with care and maintenance carried out by 17 staff, Mr Davies said. He likened the plant to house insurance policy, saying owners did not want their house to burn down, but the insurance was there if needed.

“It is there for emergency reasons. If anything were to go wrong with the water supply, then we can restart the plant,” he said. “At any time, I can get a telephone call asking me to restart the plant in an emergency. It is not just there for long-term drought; it could be needed for other reasons.”

But Associate Professor Stuart Khan, a water expert from the University of NSW School of Civil and Environmental Engineering, disagreed.

“A NSW election came along in 2007 and Morris Iemma wanted to be seen as ‘fixing’ a problem,” he said. “He ignored the advice that his own government had commissioned from experts and announced that construction would proceed. I’d say it’s a very poor-value insurance policy.”

“The costs are very high relative to the likelihood of needing to use it in the short term. Sydney may need desal in the much longer term, but to build a plant in 2007 for use in 2027 is a very dumb idea.”

“Its like buying your newborn a current-technology laptop because he/she may need it when they get to high school.”

NSW Minister for Water Niall Blair said while the NSW Coalition government inherited the facility from Labor, it had sought to get a better deal for taxpayers.

“That’s why in 2012 we leased the plant for 50 years, for $2.3 billion. This wiped out $2 billion of debt and delivered net proceeds of $300 million to invest into critical infrastructure like roads, schools and hospitals,” he said.

“As the plant is currently on shutdown, it is costing the NSW government the minimum amount possible,” he said. “As the only significant source of water supply not reliant on rainfall, the desalination plant is Sydney’s insurance policy to ensure there is water available, regardless of rainfall.”

“The NSW government cannot simply tear up legally binding contracts; that would leave the state open to a potentially massive compensation claim.”

The plant can produce 250 million litres each day – 15 per cent of Sydney’s water needs, the desalination plant website says – and the intention is that it will be activated when reservoir levels drop to 70 per cent and run at full capacity until they hit 80 per cent.


SOURCE:  https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/535m-paid-to-keep-desalination-plant-in-state-of-hibernation-20150411-1miuw6.html?fbclid=IwAR2kpb2kC_ynJHHVvfvOFfYTQ7iN7CLq1EZD4-2SGQ7rlc93p9QVwc0E0mg






The Mayor of Wollondilly Shire Council, Matthew Deeth, said the desalination plant would not help his Shire in Sydney’s south-west.

Wollondilly gets most of its water from the near-empty Cataract Dam, which sits at just 27.2 per cent capacity.

IT would seem it is dependent on weather conditions whether Sydney’s water will in fact last two years!

MEANWHILE overdevelopment and population growth are well underway in the Wollondilly … which NSW INC appears to have not taken into account …

CAAN was unable to locate any current photos that depict the low water level of the Cataract Dam apart from this of 2017 shown below!  Why? Hm …


By Jonathan Hair




A Sydney Mayor is calling for water restrictions to be enforced early, as the NSW Government prepares to switch on the city’s desalination plant tomorrow.

Key points:

  • Water restrictions are enforced once dam levels reach 50 per cent capacity
  • Wollondilly Mayor Matthew Deeth says water restrictions should come sooner
  • The Minister for Utilities says restrictions should always be a last resort


Turning on the plant for its first official use will increase some residents’ water bills by about $35 a year.

The Mayor of Wollondilly Shire Council, Matthew Deeth, said the plant would not help his Shire in Sydney’s south-west.

Wollondilly gets most of its water from the near-empty Cataract Dam, which sits at just 27.2 per cent capacity.

Mr Deeth said he wanted water restrictions introduced urgently.

“Unfortunately, the desalination plant doesn’t actually supply Wollondilly at all,” he said.

“There is a great deal of concern.

“Our water security future is unknown, and we have been calling on the State Government for the last year to implement at least level-one restrictions.”



Photo supplied early January 2018:  Cordeaux Dam Sydney


The water levels at Cataract Dam are rapidly declining, following an extended dry spell. (AAP Image/Joel Carrett)  October 21 2017





Some Sydneysiders will see a rise of $25-$35 per year once the plant is producing drinkable water — which could take a number of months.

The re-starting of the desalination plant is triggered when Sydney’s drinking water level hits 60 per cent capacity. It currently sits at 60.1 per cent.

Water restrictions are not enforced until dam levels fall to 50 per cent, but Mr Deeth said restrictions should come sooner.

“The challenge when you do hit 50 per cent, is that it takes a long time for people’s behaviours to change,” he said.

“So if we are to implement restrictions, that takes a long time to filter through and for the results to be seen at the dam levels.”

Water restrictions ‘not needed’

Mr Deeth conceded turning on the desalination plant would help some areas in Sydney but “we should have been having this discussion more than 12 months ago”.

Minister for Utilities, Don Harwin, said restrictions should always be a last resort.

“Water restrictions are not needed; Sydney’s still got two years’ worth of water,” he said.

“Water restrictions hit people in all sorts of other ways — particularly businesses that create jobs that rely on water — so water restrictions is more of a last resort.”

Under Sydney’s current water plan, level-two water restrictions are triggered when dam levels hit 40 per cent, with level-three restrictions implemented when levels plummet to 30 per cent.



SOURCE:  https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-01-25/sydney-desalination-plant-to-be-turned-on-before-restrictions/10747994






SYDNEY’s water storages are diving at an even faster rate than the Millennium Drought … 

AND the desalination plant is about to be turned on!  


-to cost the typical household $35 a year on top of an average $94 fixed costs of the plant

-the plant has a maximum capacity of producing only 15 per cent of Sydney’s drinking water

WHAT will happen when Sydney’s population balloons by 4.5 million people (86%) over the next 48 years; driven by immigration
-as droughts become more common because of climate change

-a whole new set of pipelines would need to be built


An employee of the Sydney Desalination plant walks past some of its 36,000 polymer membranes used to filter salt and other impurities from seawater so that it is suitable for drinking.

Am employee of the Sydney Desalination plant walks pas some of its 36,000 polymer membranes used to filter salt and other impurities from seawater so that it is suitable for drinking

Sydney’s water storages plunging as population explodes


By Leith van Onselen


With much of NSW in drought:

And Sydney’s water storages diving at an even faster rate than the Millennium Drought:


Sydney’s desalination plant is about to be turned on, costing the typical household an additional $35 a year, which comes on top of on average $94 a year already paid to cover the fixed costs of the plant:

Sydney households will have up to $35 added to their annual water bills to cover the restart of the city’s desalination plant, the Berejiklian government says…

“Once switched on, the plant will be able to produce drinking water within three to four months.” a plant spokesman told the Herald on Monday.

“It will take between six to eight months after being switched on for the plant to reach its maximum capacity of producing 250 million litres per day of water – or about 15 per cent of Sydney’s drinking water.”

15% of Sydney’s drinking water, hey? So what happens when Sydney’s population balloons by a projected 4.5 million people (86%) over the next 48 years, driven solely by immigration, at the same time as droughts become more common because of climate change?

Heck, Sydney’s West is projected to take an extra one million people alone in the next 20 years, posing major problems for water supply:

Documents obtained by The Daily Telegraph can reveal WaterNSW and Sydney Water have voiced concerns that Sydney’s urban sprawl and booming population are putting increasing pressure on the water system, and steps need to be urgently taken to ensure Sydney is not hit by a water shortage.

WaterNSW has also revealed that housing developments built too close to pipelines and canals in Western Sydney have “already resulted in impacts to the water quality”. “Increasing urbanisation, particularly in western and southwestern Sydney, have resulted in increased pressure on the integrity of critical water supply infrastructure, namely the Warragamba Pipeline and the Upper Canal,” the documents state…

WaterNSW says that housing and land developments need to start considering the impact building is having on water supply. It is investigating “water augmentation strategies” to service the booming population…

Remember, Western Sydney is also located a long way from the coast and the cost of piping desalinated water uphill will necessarily be very expensive:

Water being non-compressible and quite a heavy substance — it’s quite expensive to transport,” said Mr Lovell.

“Even if you’re looking at Sydney on the coast through to Penrith or from Wonthaggi to the north of Melbourne — you’re looking at 80 to 90 kilometres. That’s really expensive, and it’s a really inefficient way to transport water”…

Professor Khan said a whole new set of pipelines would need to be built to get desalinated water west of there, where the population growth will be.

“The further you (pump desalinated water) inland, the more you’re working in a direction that is opposite to the way our water supply systems are designed and operate,” he said.

“They pump water from the source — up in the reservoirs, up in the hills — to the coast. And it’s very difficult to actually turn that around.”



Warragamba dam at only 64 percent

Photo:  November 2018 Warragamba Dam was at 64.9%


Water scarcity remains the elephant in the room of the population debate, and an issue Australia’s mass immigration ‘Big Australia’ boosters continually ignore.

The first best policy response to alleviating Sydney’s water woes is to not make the situation worse by force-feeding many tens-of-thousands of new migrants into Greater Sydney each year. It’s bleedingly obvious.




SOURCE:  https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2019/01/sydneys-water-storages-plunging-population-explodes/





The challenges of overpopulation

The challenges of overpopulation

By Dr Geoff Davies | 
(Screenshot via @4Corners)

The challenges of a stressed Earth go beyond the rhetoric of both capitalism and socialism, writes Dr Geoff Davies.


THE CONCEPTS AND RHETORIC of both old capitalism and old socialism obscure the great opportunities at hand to create a thriving and enduring way of life.

A broader, longer and better-informed perspective might pre-empt unnecessary conflict among putative allies, such as accusations of being racists, or fellow-travellers of either ideology.

The need for a fundamental reorganisation of our societies in order to return them to viability within Earth’s biosphere focuses our attention on how we are organised and what our options might be.

The conventional framing of our options is a dichotomy between capitalism and socialism. So entrenched is this framing it seems to be difficult for many to imagine anything else, to the point that if you criticise one you are presumed to be a supporter of the other.

This might not be a problem if one or the other offered a serious option for survival, but there is little evidence for this from the past practice of either. Perhaps one of them can, but if so, it needs a more penetrating analysis than one usually gets. The fact that each has continuously morphed makes the framing even less useful for a productive discussion, to the point where it is often unclear what people might mean by “capitalism” or “socialism”.

Bella flokarti@BellaFlokarti

Big Australia and bust: Immigration is a drag on our economy and lifestyle https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/immigration-is-a-drag-on-the-economy–and-our-lifestyle,11299#.WrMSaDuePMA.twitter  @IndependentAus

Big Australia and bust: Immigration is a drag on our economy and lifestyle

Australia can choose not to be ‘big’ if it wants; both our material income and our quality of life would benefit.


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We have learnt a great deal about societies, people and ecosystems since Burke and PaineMarx and Mill were writing. And we have a pretty fundamental new concept, the self-organising system, to bring to bear, so perhaps we can now do better at identifying options.

As well, if one looks without the blinkers of either ideology it is not too hard to identify mechanisms in our societies that serve us very poorly, notably by pumping wealth to the rich, nor to find alternatives that are likely to be much healthier.

It is also important to extend our perspective beyond the past couple of centuries of Western experience. It has become clear only fairly recently that our citified, “civilised” way of life has been both oppressively hierarchical and hostile to nature since its origins about 6,000 years ago. There is much more to come to grips with here than Marx versus Mill, Keynes versus Hayek.

There is also another broad stream of thinking and practice, largely independent of ideologies, that is focused on whether and how we can change our activities and organisation so as to have some prospect of surviving as viable societies. This comprises many things ranging from climate science and ecology through regenerative agriculturealternative money systemsgreen cities, and a fully-recycling “circular economy” to the shift of values that must accompany these practical changes if they are to last.

We must be aware that time is critically short and the stakes are by now extreme. We may well be beyond climate tipping points, but we have to proceed in the hope that is not true. We are using resources well beyond any sustainable level and by many credible estimates the land, ocean, forests, fresh water systems, soils and other crucial components of our life support system are degrading rapidly.

The underlying reality here is that we are, through food, water and air, intimately a part of a dense web of life on Earth, and its health is our health.

Michelle Pini@vmp9

Australia and the overpopulation myth https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/australia-and-the-overpopulation-myth,12274#.XDuoA_4vk8E.twitter  @IndependentAus @JohnPassant

Australia and the overpopulation myth

The overpopulation, anti-people scare campaign sends xenophobic and racist messages.


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One is routinely disappointed by the superficiality and venality of mainstream politicians and their ignorant paymasters and supporting media chorus, who resolutely focus on their extractive conception of life in Australia and on Earth.

On the other hand, it is disconcerting to have positive approaches attacked by putative allies, such as John Passant and his recent claim in ‘Australia and the overpopulation myth’ – evidently shared fairly widely among some sections of “the left”that concerns about human population can only serve the cause of racism.

Passant blames most of the current planetary destruction on corporate greed. One can totally agree that corporations are primary agents of the destruction. However, Passant implies that if only corporations are abolished all our troubles will be over. Is it really that simple?

In what I will call modern global consumer capitalism, corporations operate by cultivating materialist addictions in our societies. This makes many of “the workers” complicit, which might have something to do with modern Marxists’ failure to attract a large following.

Certainly, we need to reduce our fossil-fuelled overconsumption, but breaking those addictions will not be simple, nor will figuring out how to keep so many people alive and thriving within the limits of a stressed planet.

Even if we did remove corporations and material addiction as proximate drivers, what sort of life and society does Passant envisage would ensue? That is left unclear, apart from vague appeals to democracy and internationalism.

Evidently “the workers” will spontaneously reduce their consumption to supportable levels, and that will remain true no matter how many billions of people there are.

There is indeed enough food to feed the present 7.7 billion mouths, but the planet is already severely stressed.

Passant evinces little knowledge of or concern about this. It is either ignorant or disingenuous to imply that Malthus’ old argument is the only basis for concerns about population. It is reprehensible to go further and claim “populationists” are only motivated by racism.

Jane O’Sullivan@OSullivan_Jane

The overpopulation of Australia: We’re running out of time –
Here, here @Miketbay83 @SustPopAus https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/the-overpopulation-of-australia-were-running-out-of-time,11319#.WrMQUms-IGU.twitter  @IndependentAus

The overpopulation of Australia: We’re running out of time

*Our nation is in danger of becoming overpopulated, but a solution should be achieved at a community level rather than solely by policy makers.


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Nor was Marx the only one to point out the divorce between early capitalism and the natural environment. There were also, just as an example, the English romantic poets and Henry David Thoreau.

More pertinently, predatory capitalists are only the latest manifestation of the trope, deeply embedded in our civilisation, that the natural world is there for us to dominate and exploit. Many societies foundered from failing to heed limits in their environment long before capitalism came along.

Passant quotes authorities who claim overpopulation arguments are used to oppress people. This hardly fits Australia’s situation, in which the people are burdened by the cost of a very high rate of immigration. 

*Jane O’Sullivan makes a straightforward case that each new person costs around $500,000 in new houses, shops, schools and basic infrastructure.

*We are paying over $100 billion per year in direct costs or lost amenity, for high immigration — money that could boost wages and provide services to those in need.

And in case anyone is inclined to think this piece is an unwitting front for neoliberalism, you might like to see my take-down of George Megalogenis’ and others’ claims that high immigration and free markets saved Australia from the global financial crisis. Not to mention a book called Sack the Economists.

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Marx had important insights, but it is as unhelpful to regard his word as the immutable truth as it is for the Institute for Public Affairs to revere the alleged “liberal principles” of Edmund Burke.

If one can move beyond 18th and 19th-Century memes and terminology, a positive way forward emerges. Economies are far-from-equilibrium systems, which means markets cannot be left unfettered — as is obvious anyway from the grand neoliberal experiment in social engineering of the past 35 years.

Markets can be useful, but they must be managed. They can be managed by attending to the incentives under which they operate, with regulation where necessary.

Governments have essential roles, as the implementers of our collective will and to run natural monopolies and oversee other critical services.

*The present total corruption of our democratic system needs to be and can be ended — through people power, transparency and strict limits on political “donations“.

Banking ought to be a small and carefully regulated service.

Media ought to be held to responsibilities to balance the immense privilege they exercise and, preferably, could be owned by their audiences.

Local collective ownership can be fostered, better ensuring a fair flow of wealth reaches those who generate it.

Our assault on the land and planet can be quickly reduced just by widely adopting many practices already available.

Economic management can focus on simultaneously reducing quantity (of resources extracted, through a circular economy) and improving quality (of life).

A better way forward is there for us to pick up and do. This is not the naïve and oxymoronic green capitalism of “sustainable growth”. Rather it is a harnessing of the best of our creativity and our immense modern knowledge to the cause of thriving within Earth’s abundant biosphere.

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Dr Geoff Davies is an author, commentator and scientist. He is a retired geophysicist at the Australian National University. You can read more from Geoff on his blog, BetterNature.

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Former Labor MP to Fight Explosive Population Growth


Australia recently surpassed 25 million residents.

Back in 1979, Australia’s population stood at a far more sustainable 14.5 million people.

That represents an incredible 72.5% growth in population in only 40 years.

Proposals to limit growth and reduce the immigration intake are sometimes mistakenly — and often purposefully — conflated with racism.

That purposeful misdirection generally comes from supporters of a Big Australia.

The reality of a Big Australia

These same voices will tell you Australia needs high immigration levels to address our ‘ageing population’. As if migrants, over time, won’t age themselves. This is simply kicking the can down the road, creating an even larger problem for future generations saddled with a far larger ageing population.

Make no mistake; a lot of vested interests stand to make financial gains from continued rapid population growth. But as the past decade’s flat wage growth shows, those benefits have largely failed to trickle down to the average Aussie workers.

What the average Australians have gotten are congested roads, jam packed public transport, and appalling degradation of the natural environment. And with Treasury estimating Australia will add another 10 million people by 2049 — in just three decades — meeting any international emissions reductions targets will become far more onerous.

But nothing says that Australia has to continue on this path. A nation historically built on migration does not need to remain addicted to endless population growth. This is the 21st Century — not the 19th or 20th — after all.


Thomson’s reasons for leaving the Labor party

This truth is not lost on former state and federal Labor MP Kelvin Thomson, who has just become an advisor for the Sustainable Australia party, as AAP reports.

Mr Thomson had been representing the Labor party for 35 years. He was the party’s councillor from 1981–88, then Labor MP for Victoria until 1996, and then a Federal Labor MP from then until the 2016 election.

Understandably, his resignation from the Labor party came with a ‘very heavy heart’, but it was a decision that ultimately had to be done in order to continue boosting his own morale.

As he said on Monday:

There are irreconcilable differences between the course I believe Australia and the world needs to chart, and the course that the Australian Labor Party is charting.

For a decade now I have set out what I believe to be the myopia, greed, vanity and ecological illiteracy that drives Big Australia, Australia’s policy of rapid population growth.

I retain a hope that in time, the Labor Party will embrace views about Australia’s population that are more in keeping with the needs of this generation, the needs of those who will come after us, and the needs of the many other species we have the good fortune to share this ancient, beautiful and fragile country with.

What this world needs now is not more people, but more courage.

Courage, it seems, to fight the politically correct brigade in order to honour and respect this land for all it has and continues to give us. There are only so many feet this golden soil can handle.

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A warm welcome from the Sustainable Australia Party

It appears Thomson’s new political home is very appreciative of his move.

Sustainable Australia Party Founder and President William Bourke said Mr Thomson was one of the kick-starters of the decade-long population debate.

Bourke was assured of Thomson’s mindset with the former Labor MP’s description of the Treasury projections of a 35 million population by 2049 as ‘a recipe for environmental disaster’.

Bourke also had these kind words to say:

The Sustainable Australia Party, formed in the wake of that debate, is a party of the political centre, and Kelvin and other mainstream, like-minded Australians are very welcome here.

According to AAP, Thomson will advise the party’s first MP, Clifford Hayes, elected to Victoria’s upper house at the November state poll.

Hayes is also happy with Thomson’s arrival:

Kelvin Thomson’s knowledge of all three levels of government, his campaign experience – he stood for public office 12 times in his career and was successful on each occasion – and his policy development expertise…will make him an invaluable asset to me, my office and to the Sustainable Australia Party.

And we think that will make Kelvin Thomson an invaluable asset to the good of Australia, as well.





Friday 18 September 2009



We’ve had tax reform, microeconomic reform, industrial relations reform. It is now time for population reform. We are sleepwalking into an environmental disaster.

First, the impact of a 60% increase in Australia’s population on our native wildlife will be catastrophic. Already over 200 of Australia’s birds are under threat – 30% of our 760 species. And when was the last time you saw a Bandicoot, or a Bilby, or a Bettong, or a Tree Kangaroo?

It’s not just the habitat destruction caused by spreading suburbs, through that’s serious enough. It’s also habitat destruction from agriculture and the impact on our river systems, which are already in a state of poor health.

Secondly, what about carbon emissions? The Government has promised to cut carbon emissions by 60% over the next 40 years, and all the science is saying that we need to cut them by 80% to tackle global warming.

How are we supposed to do that if our population is going up by 60% at the same time? It’s pretty hard to reduce your carbon footprint when you keep adding more feet. And there’s the impact on the availability of food, water, energy, and land.

These things are already stretched and a 60% population increase will only drive up the prices of these essentials, and lower our living standards. And what about the impact on our major cities – Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane?

Declining housing affordability, traffic congestion, overcrowded concrete jungles. I don’t want my city of Melbourne to become Mexico City, or Karachi, or Shanghai. I’d be surprised if people in Sydney or Brisbane want that either.

Another 14 million people will not give us a richer country. It will spread our mineral wealth more thinly and give us a poorer one. It will make a mockery of our obligation to pass on to our children a world in as good a condition as the one our grandparents gave to us.

It’s time we thought hard about stabilising our population. Kelvin Thomson Member for Wills











‘Bit of a panic’ as roasting outback NSW town runs out of water

As if times weren’t hard enough for residents in the remote NSW town of Walgett, stuck in a rut of 40-odd degree days and with the nearby Namoi River so dry “you can ride a motorbike on it”.

A lightning strike on Thursday also knocked out the town’s bore water supplies, leaving tap flows to “just a dribble“, Ian Woodcock, deputy mayor of Walgett Shire, told the Herald.

Definitely 'no boats' on Lake Keepit - the nearest source of reservoir water for Walgett.
Definitely ‘no boats’ on Lake Keepit – the nearest source of reservoir water for Walgett.CREDIT:GARETH GARDNER


“There was a bit of panic,” Mr Woodcock said, adding that in his 55 years in the region, he’s “never seen anything like it...it’s very dire“.

Much of NSW was due to get some temperature relief on Saturday, but not Walgett and the north-west, where another three days of heat close to 40 degrees was expected.


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As we are hit with a heatwave, Walgett has no water.

Ronald Murray, a staff member at the Walgett Sporting Club, said the town “wasn’t doing too well at the moment”.

Even with water now emerging from the taps, “you can’t drink it – it’s brown”, he said. “It’s unreal.”

Having some flow, though, was critical especially for those whose air conditioners – known as “swampies” – rely on evaporative cooling. “You’d probably chuck [a fit] without that,” Mr Murray said.

A council notice that the bore water might not be restored until Monday had stoked local anger.

One resident responded to the alert on Facebook saying: “If that’s the case how about reviewing the price of the fxxxing rates being charged a fee for water we can’t use is a joke, residents here pay more then enough to afford decent infrastructure”.

Keepit Dam, a reservoir which releases water into the Namoi River that usually flows into Walgett, is down to about one quarter of one per cent full.
Keepit Dam, a reservoir which releases water into the Namoi River that usually flows into Walgett, is down to about one quarter of one per cent full.CREDIT:GARETH GARDNER


Parash Patel, who operates the town’s IGA supermarket, said his store’s butchery was affected by the lack of water.

“It would be really hard” if the outage had lasted through the weekend, he said.

Even so, the town remains on Stage 5 water restrictions, as it has been for about four months, Mr Patel said. That means no watering of lawns or use of water to wash cars.

“It’s completely dry – all the gardens,” Mr Patel said. “You can just see the colour of the ground.”

Lake Keepit: now suited to land yachts.
Lake Keepit: now suited to land yachts.CREDIT:GARETH GARDNER

‘Final release’

A spokesman for WaterNSW said the Namoi Valley was “among the major focal points for the severe drought” afflicting much of the state.

“A near absence of inflows into the valley’s two major dams – Split Rock and Keepit – in the past 18 months has resulted in Keepit Dam storage falling below 1 per cent of capacity and ceasing releases,” he said.

The final release from Keepit Dam into the Lower Namoi was some 30km from Walgett and “there is some likelihood it could reach the town in the next eight to 12 days”.

Record heat

While Sydney’s sea breezes have shielded coastal suburbs from the worst of the inland furnace, the city is forecast to have its hottest day in at least a month on Saturday.

The temperature gap with western suburbs – lately running at about 10 degrees for maximums – will narrow with 34 degrees forecast for the city and 39 degrees for Penrith for the day.

The scale of the December-January heatwave has been impressive.

The event has included Australia’s hottest December day, with an average of 40.21 degrees on the 27th of last month. The following morning then brought the country’s highest average December minimums, at 24.16 degrees, the Bureau of Meteorology said.

Last month was also Australia’s hottest on record for both maximum and mean temperatures, bureau data show.

That hot end to the year also made 2018 the second-hottest on record for day-time temperatures and the third warmest for mean temperatures.t

The bureau is due to release its full review of 2018 in coming days.


Definitely 'no boats' on Lake Keepit - the nearest source of reservoir water for Walgett.


Peter Hannam


Peter Hannam writes on environment issues for The Sydney Morning Herald and The Age.


SOURCE:  https://www.smh.com.au/environment/weather/bit-of-a-panic-as-roasting-outback-nsw-town-runs-out-of-water-20190104-p50pmp.html






THE OFFICE OF ENVIRONMENT AND HERITAGE says it has no plans to extend its Beachwatch programme to test the water quality of swimming spots west of Cabarita!

Cabarita is on the opposite side of the Parramatta River from Ryde!

THIS is despite so much (more) development about to hit Sydney’s West with more water quality issues associated with it …

20 to 40 per cent of the normal river flow in the Hawkesbury River in dry weather is treated sewage



Swimming in Sydney’s Nepean, Hawkesbury and Parramatta rivers is ‘a huge act of faith’, say scientists

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Scientists say there is a clear east-versus-west divide that is leaving western Sydney residents at risk of swimming in contaminated water this summer.

Key points

  • Beachwatch publishes data on water quality at Sydney’s eastern beaches and some harbour locations
  • There’s no publicly available data on swimming spots west of Cabarita, although some councils tests water quality
  • The Office of Environment and Heritage says it has no plans to extend its Beachwatch program

As temperatures in parts of the west reached 42 degrees Celsius by midday yesterday, hundreds flocked to the Hawkesbury, Nepean and Parramatta rivers — but had no way of knowing if the water was safe.

The New South Wales Government’s Beachwatch conducts regular testing of Sydney’s eastern beaches and some harbour locations, but does not test at any swimming spots west of Cabarita.

Ian Wright, who specialises in water pollution at Western Sydney University, said there was no public data on the water quality at Windsor Beach on the Hawkesbury River — an omission which he said was comparable to having no data for Bondi Beach.

“This is the Bondi Beach of western Sydney,” he said.

“This is incredibly popular but I can’t give you any guidance on water quality and the risks involved.

“I don’t know how swimmable that is.”

Dr Wright said the brown water “doesn’t look great” and there were many risks to human health due to the microbiology of the river.

Historically there have been so many water quality issues here,” he said.


“It has high nutrients, it has blue-green algae from time to time, water weeds, and it also has the likely presence of human pathogens, so bacterial contamination is also an issue here.”

“It’s a huge act of faith to jump into this water.”

Dr Wright said when local councils tested the water, the results were not made public.

*”Why do we have so little information available? Yet we have so much development about to hit here and every bit of development will have so many more water quality issues associated with it,” he said.


“If the State Government says that Beachwatch is the responsible authority in the east and the harbour, why isn’t it also the responsible authority in the west?”

Around 20 to 40 per cent of the normal river flow in the Hawkesbury River in dry weather is treated sewage, according to Dr Wright.

“This is where a lot of Sydney’s drinking water comes from further upstream and yet this is where so many of the pollution issues from runoff, agriculture and sewerage hit.”

He isn’t the only scientist concerned by the lack of data available for the west.

Stuart Khan from the University of New South Wales said there should be a focus on ensuring the upper Parramatta and Nepean rivers were safe for swimming “because they should be, they’re jewels of Sydney”.

Dr Khan also called on the Beachwatch program to be extended.

“It’s a question of funding, it’s a question of getting the State Government to come onboard and say that this is an important enough priority for us to be investing funds in.”

No plans to extend Beachwatch to the west


But a spokesperson for the Office of Environment and Heritage said it had “no plans” to widen its Beachwatch program “at the moment”.

Dr Khan said consistent testing at popular swimming sites along the west’s riverways, were likely to reveal some bad results.

“There’s a good chance, I think, that we’ll find the rivers are not up to scratch, they’re not ideally safe for swimming in at this time,” he said.

Dr Wright said he would not suggest submerging eyes, ears or noses in water along the Hawkesbury River.

“It looks unclean to me. It has a little bit of a rich odour,” he said.

“I would swim in it if I was really hot, but I would be mindful of the risks.”


THIS ARTICLE was read by 75,000 people!

CAAN has highlighted the information which needs to be shared widely!

“The sooner the community gets together to decide on fair and just population policy, rather than outsourcing the decision process to rich political lobbyists, the closer we can get to a change for the better!”


TOP IA STORY OF 2018: The overpopulation of Australia

By Michael Bayliss | 
With a growth rate of 370,000 per year, forward planning has never been more crucial (Image via Wikipedia)


The prize for most popular IA article for 2018 goes to Michael Bayliss for this March article on Australia’s rapidly expanding population, which was read by over 75,000 people.

The overpopulation of Australia: We’re running out of time

Our nation is in danger of becoming overpopulated in the not-too-distant future, but the solution should be resolved at a community level rather than solely by policy makers, writes Michael Bayliss.

ALL OF A SUDDEN it seems that Australia’s population has become something of a hot topic in the media. On Monday, 12 March, both ABC’s Four Corners and the episode of Q&Athat followed it focused exclusively on population.

This followed on from recent comments by a range of people from conservative politicians such as Tony Abbott through to progressive environmentalists such as Paul Hawken.

It is becoming evident that there are many different views on this topic from a diversity of interests, so does this mean that we can finally start to have a mature and rational conversation on the population issue?

In an article that I co-wrote a year ago for New Matilda on why the left should be more open to discussing population, it was pointed out that since Australia’s population is growing by the size of Canberra every year the issue is not going to disappear, especially since it is mostly growing in a relatively small part of the Australian continent.

In a more recent article on town planning for Independent Australia, I argued why it is difficult to plan for sustainable communities with lower rates of per capita consumption when we are endlessly trying to play catch-up in order to accommodate a rapidly increasing population.

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This is one reason why Paul Hawken of Project Drawdown informed a packed audience at this year’s Sustainable Living Festival that the empowerment and education of women and girls, combined with access to affordable family planning worldwide, are together the most significant contribution to addressing global climate change.

However, Australia’s foreign aid budget has been steadily going down over the past couple of decades and this needs to be reversed if Australia is to have any serious impact in assisting population sustainability worldwide, which is currently 7.6 billion and is expected to reach 11.2 billion by 2100.

It is just as important that our aid money is directed towards the grass roots proactive projects that are needed to help countries create resilient, environmentally regenerative communities with the access to healthcare and education that enables women and men to make informed family planning choices.

Given that the global population is currently increasing by 83 million per year, there is no domestic population policy in Australia that could address the magnitude of this global phenomenon without generous financial support to address the underlying causes.

Instead of investing in proactive foreign aid, Australia is fighting a losing a battle, siphoning much of our GDP to build the “roads of the future”. These and other infrastructure projects are trying in vain to accommodate a domestic population growth rate that is amongst the highest in the OECD.

Australia grows by 370,000 people per year and the vast majority of this growth occurs in or around our capital cities in the form of suburban sprawl or apartment developments.

This puts us on a trajectory to almost double our current population of just over 25 million to at least 40 million people by 2050 — just over 30 years away. Melbourne and Sydney will also double in size to mega cities of around eight million each.


The infrastructure costs alone are staggering.  We will need to spend as much money on infrastructure over the next 40 years as we have since Australia was first colonised — a figure that is estimated by some sources to be around $1.5 trillion.

It is already estimated that Australia is already at least five years behind in the infrastructure that it needs and, as successive governments fail to keep up with the trains, roads, schools and housing, it is likely that these costs will only intensify.

*Why Is Australia growing so fast and what is the cause of this growth?

It is not due to our birth rate and it is not due to our refugee intake, as our humanitarian program is less than 10% of our annual migration intake.

Australia is in a unique position where we would not need to reduce our birth rate or our humanitarian program in order to achieve a long term stable population.

Organisations such as Sustainable Population Australiahave never been about turning back the boats or forcing people to have fewer children and never will. Rather, it is the deliberate population policies designed to boost short term GDP growth that such groups question.

*Sometimes a quote says it all. In an article in the Australian Financial Review, “Australia’s most prolific apartment developer”, Harry Triguboffwas asked about the potential oversupply of apartments in Sydney and Brisbane leading to falling rents, to which he responded:

*”I will simply bring in more migrants.”

*Such a quote is telling, as it implies that population policy is influenced strongly by business interests, primarily for economic gains by those in positions of influence and power.

*This lobbying power has resulted in a skewed migration program, in which economic migration is the largest contributor to growth at more than 60% per annum.

*However, political debate tends to focus exclusively on refugee migration, creating an ideological wedge in society while we collectively overlook the largest contributor to population growth and there are strong reasons why this blind spot exists.

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Big business remains hostile to the humanitarian program, due to the perception that refugees require funding for social support and that they do not have the economic advantages that skilled migrants provide.

Therefore, refugees and asylum seekers are disenfranchised from migration policy as it currently stands.

Non-refugee migrants often find themselves short changed as well, as there is less social security available for overseas workers, particularly for temporary workersRecent media exposure of abuse to 457 workers from franchise organisations such as 7-Eleven is just scratching the surface.

There is also the Australian Indigenous perspective to consider, as population growth policies continue without Indigenous consultation.

I recently had the opportunity to interview Richie Allan, Indigenous advocate of the Ngunnawal community in the A.C.T. He was openly critical of the suburban sprawl around Canberra, particularity where it encroaches the Ginninderra Falls and other places of cultural significance for his community.

From his perspective:

“Rapid population growth is killing indigenous culture and heritage in the A.C.T.”

Lowitja Lois O’Donoghue, as then-chair of ATSIC, in a submission to the Jones Report, in 1994, wrote:

‘…population almost doubled in size, taking over more and more of the best land for housing, suffering greater pollution and congestion and natural resources under increased threat of depletion and degradation.

Such a prospect must be alarming to all Australians. For Indigenous Australians it is doubly so, because the damage that will inevitably be caused to the land threatens the heart of our culture and our very being.’

So what are some alternatives to our current model? Here are a few of my suggestions:

  • A migration policy that is decoupled from economic policy, so that focus can be shifted toward assisting people in need and proactive foreign aid to address root causes of global population growth rather than growth being dictated for us by narrow economic interests.
  • Increased opportunities for open discussion on family planning and the pros and cons of having children. Often people are unaware of the high expense of raising children in Australia  and that having one less child is the highest personal contributor in reducing carbon emissions by 58.6 tonnes per year. This also eliminates the challenges in raising children in today’s isolated suburbs.
  • More authentic and genuine Indigenous consultation in regards to town planning and migration policies.

d.b. valentine@dbvalentine

“failure of governments to adequately plan and invest in the infrastructure:” – Q&A: Australia’s immigration rate should be cut in half, Bob Carr says


Q&A: Australia’s immigration rate should be cut in half, Bob Carr says

Former foreign affairs minister says the benefits of immigration could be preserved but effects managed by slowing down rate


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Ultimately, population policy will need to be discussed at some point, as it impossible to grow indefinitely on a finite planet, particularly now that we are facing a climate emergency.

Population growth has a multiplier effect on the impact of total human activity on the environment, whether we’re talking about water shortages, loss of eco-systems, displaced persons, infrastructure shortfalls and so on, and on.

If Australia’s population is to double by 2050, our per capita impact on the environment will need to drop by 50% within 35 years just to break even. The problem is that rapid growth is making it harder for us to do just that as the urban sprawl and poor standard densification – whereby many blocks of units are built to last less than half a century – that occurs when population growth outpaces infrastructure development and urban regeneration is not only entrenching car dependency, it is also increasing our food miles through loss of the food bowls.

Crucially, it is decimating local wildlife and stripping biomass in some of our most biodiverse areas.

The sooner the community gets together to decide on fair and just population policy, rather than outsourcing the decision process to rich political lobbyists, the closer we can get to a change for the better.

Michael Bayliss is communications manager for Sustainable Population Australia and Co-founder of Population, Permaculture and Planning. You can follow him on Twitter @Miketbay83 and Sustainable Population Australia HERE.


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